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3M 8225-8003 D-Sub 25 Position Plug Connector - Equivalent & Substitute Parts
Part Overview
The 3M 8225-8003 is a 25 position D-Sub plug connector with male pins, designed for panel mount applications using IDC (Insulation Displacement Contact) termination with ribbon cable. This connector features a DB/B shell size (Shell Size 3) with tin-plated steel housing and gold-plated contacts. The part is classified as obsolete, making equivalent and substitute parts necessary for ongoing system maintenance and new design implementations.
Substiute Parts
Key Parameters
| Parameter | Value |
|---|---|
| Manufacturer Part Number | 8225-8003 |
| Manufacturer | 3M |
| Connector Type | D-Sub Plug, Male Pins |
| Number of Positions | 25 |
| Shell Size / Layout | 3 (DB, B) |
| Mounting Type | Panel Mount |
| Termination Method | IDC, Ribbon Cable |
| Shell Material / Finish | Steel, Tin Plated |
| Contact Finish | Gold (30.0µin / 0.76µm) |
| Current Rating | 1A |
| Operating Temperature | -55°C ~ 105°C |
| Flammability Rating | UL94 V-0 |
| RoHS Status | RoHS Compliant |
| Product Status | Obsolete |
Substitute Part Grouping Explanation
Substitution for the 3M 8225-8003 is determined by the following critical parameters that must remain consistent:
- Connector Configuration: 25 position D-Sub plug with male pins, Shell Size 3 (DB, B)
- Termination Method: IDC ribbon cable termination
- Electrical Characteristics: Current rating minimum 1A, operating temperature range -55°C to 105°C or broader
- Compliance: UL94 V-0 flammability rating, RoHS compliance
- Contact System: Gold-plated contacts for signal integrity
- Mounting Compatibility: Panel mount or free-hanging (in-line) configurations are functionally compatible in ribbon cable applications
Substitute parts are grouped into two categories:
Category A - TE Connectivity AMPLIMITE HDF-20 Series (1658608-2, 1658613-2, 1658615-2): Free-hanging (in-line) configuration with active product status, higher current rating (1.25A), and equivalent operating temperature range.
Category B - Amphenol ICC G17K Series (G17K25101001EU, G17K25103101EU): Free-hanging (in-line) configuration with active product status, feed-through and grounding indent features, and equivalent flammability rating.
Category C - Amphenol ICC DFR Series (L117DBFRAA25P, L117DBFRB25P, L117DBFRBA25P, L117DBFRCA25P, L117DBFRDA25P): Free-hanging (in-line) configuration with active product status, higher current ratings (3A-5A), extended operating temperature range (-40°C to 125°C), and 250V voltage rating.
Parameter Comparison
| Parameter | 3M 8225-8003 | TE 1658608-2 | TE 1658613-2 | TE 1658615-2 | Amphenol G17K25101001EU | Amphenol G17K25103101EU | Amphenol L117DBFRAA25P | Amphenol L117DBFRB25P | Amphenol L117DBFRBA25P | Amphenol L117DBFRCA25P | Amphenol L117DBFRDA25P |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Connector Type | D-Sub Plug, Male Pins | D-Sub Plug, Male Pins | D-Sub Plug, Male Pins | D-Sub Plug, Male Pins | D-Sub Plug, Male Pins | D-Sub Plug, Male Pins | D-Sub Plug, Male Pins | D-Sub Plug, Male Pins | D-Sub Plug, Male Pins | D-Sub Plug, Male Pins | D-Sub Plug, Male Pins |
| Number of Positions | 25 | 25 | 25 | 25 | 25 | 25 | 25 | 25 | 25 | 25 | 25 |
| Shell Size / Layout | 3 (DB, B) | 3 (DB, B) | 3 (DB, B) | 3 (DB, B) | 3 (DB, B) | 3 (DB, B) | 3 (DB, B) | 3 (DB, B) | 3 (DB, B) | 3 (DB, B) | 3 (DB, B) |
| Termination Method | IDC, Ribbon Cable | IDC, Ribbon Cable | IDC, Ribbon Cable | IDC, Ribbon Cable | IDC, Ribbon Cable | IDC, Ribbon Cable | IDC, Ribbon Cable | IDC, Ribbon Cable | IDC, Ribbon Cable | IDC, Ribbon Cable | IDC, Ribbon Cable |
| Shell Material / Finish | Steel, Tin Plated | Steel, Tin Plated | Steel, Tin Plated | Not Specified | Steel | Steel | Steel, Nickel Plated | Steel, Nickel Plated | Steel, Tin Plated | Steel, Nickel Plated | Steel, Nickel Plated |
| Contact Finish | Gold (30.0µin) | Gold | Gold | Gold | Gold | Gold | Gold (15.0µin) | Gold (15.0µin) | Gold (15.0µin) | Gold (15.0µin) | Gold (15.0µin) |
| Current Rating (Amps) | 1A | 1.25A | 1.25A | 1.25A | Not Specified | Not Specified | 5A | 3A | 3A | 5A | 5A |
| Operating Temperature | -55°C ~ 105°C | -55°C ~ 105°C | -55°C ~ 105°C | -55°C ~ 105°C | Not Specified | Not Specified | -40°C ~ 125°C | -55°C ~ 105°C | -55°C ~ 105°C | -40°C ~ 125°C | -40°C ~ 125°C |
| Flammability Rating | UL94 V-0 | UL94 V-0 | UL94 V-0 | UL94 V-0 | UL94 V-0 | UL94 V-0 | UL94 V-0 | UL94 V-0 | UL94 V-0 | UL94 V-0 | UL94 V-0 |
| RoHS Status | RoHS Compliant | RoHS Compliant | ROHS3 Compliant | ROHS3 Compliant | RoHS Compliant | RoHS Compliant | RoHS Compliant | RoHS Compliant | RoHS Compliant | RoHS Compliant | RoHS Compliant |
| Product Status | Obsolete | Active | Active | Active | Active | Active | Active | Active | Active | Active | Active |
Engineering Selection Recommendations
All listed substitute parts maintain functional compatibility with the 3M 8225-8003 based on connector configuration, termination method, and compliance certifications. Selection among substitutes depends on specific application requirements:
TE Connectivity AMPLIMITE HDF-20 Series (1658608-2, 1658613-2, 1658615-2) are recommended for direct replacement in applications requiring equivalent electrical performance. These parts feature active product status, RoHS/ROHS3 compliance, and current ratings of 1.25A, which exceeds the original 1A specification. The operating temperature range (-55°C to 105°C) matches the original part. Flange feature differences (4-40 threaded vs. unthreaded) should be evaluated for mechanical fit in the target application.
Amphenol ICC G17K Series (G17K25101001EU, G17K25103101EU) provide active product status and RoHS compliance with equivalent flammability ratings. These parts include feed-through and grounding indent features. Operating temperature and current rating specifications are not provided in the data; verification against application requirements is necessary before selection.
Amphenol ICC DFR Series (L117DBFRAA25P, L117DBFRB25P, L117DBFRBA25P, L117DBFRCA25P, L117DBFRDA25P) offer enhanced electrical performance with current ratings of 3A to 5A and extended operating temperature range (-40°C to 125°C). These parts include 250V voltage rating and strain relief features. Flange configurations vary (mating side screwlock, cable side, or unthreaded housing); selection must match mechanical interface requirements. Nickel-plated or tin-plated shell finishes are available.
All substitute parts maintain UL94 V-0 flammability compliance and RoHS certification status, ensuring regulatory alignment with the original part.
Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)
Q: Can the TE Connectivity 1658608-2 directly replace the 3M 8225-8003 in a panel mount application?
A: The TE 1658608-2 is configured for free-hanging (in-line) mounting, while the 3M 8225-8003 is panel mount. However, both use IDC ribbon cable termination and share identical shell size (3, DB/B), position count (25), and contact configuration. Mechanical mounting differences must be evaluated for the specific application. If panel mount is required, alternative substitutes or mechanical adapters may be necessary.
Q: What is the difference between the Amphenol DFR series parts (L117DBFRAA25P, L117DBFRB25P, etc.)?
A: The DFR series parts differ in flange feature configuration and current rating. L117DBFRAA25P and L117DBFRCA25P support 5A current rating with mating side screwlock features (M3 and 4-40 respectively). L117DBFRB25P supports 3A with unthreaded housing. L117DBFRBA25P supports 3A with cable side M3 screwlock. L117DBFRDA25P supports 5A with cable side 4-40 screwlock. All share identical shell size, position count, and IDC termination method.
Q: Are all substitute parts RoHS compliant?
A: Yes. All listed substitute parts are RoHS compliant or ROHS3 compliant. The original 3M 8225-8003 is RoHS compliant. Compliance status is maintained across all substitutes.
Q: What is the significance of contact finish thickness differences?
A: The 3M 8225-8003 specifies 30.0µin (0.76µm) gold contact finish thickness. Amphenol DFR series parts specify 15.0µin (0.38µm). TE Connectivity parts do not specify thickness. Contact finish thickness affects durability and wear resistance in high-cycle mating applications. Lower thickness may be acceptable for static or low-cycle applications but should be verified against application requirements.
Q: Can I use an Amphenol DFR series part with a 5A rating in place of the 1A-rated 3M 8225-8003?
A: Yes. The 5A-rated Amphenol DFR parts (L117DBFRAA25P, L117DBFRCA25P, L117DBFRDA25P) are electrically compatible and provide higher current capacity than the original 1A specification. This represents an upgrade in electrical performance. All other parameters (shell size, position count, termination method, flammability rating, RoHS compliance) remain compatible.
Q: What is the difference between tin-plated and nickel-plated shell finishes?
A: The 3M 8225-8003 uses tin-plated steel housing. TE Connectivity AMPLIMITE HDF-20 series also uses tin-plated steel. Amphenol DFR series parts use either nickel-plated or tin-plated steel depending on the specific model. Nickel plating provides enhanced corrosion resistance in harsh environments, while tin plating offers cost efficiency and adequate protection in standard industrial conditions. Selection depends on environmental exposure requirements.
Q: Are the Amphenol G17K series parts suitable for my application?
A: The Amphenol G17K series (G17K25101001EU, G17K25103101EU) maintain connector configuration, termination method, and flammability compliance with the original part. However, current rating and operating temperature specifications are not provided in the technical data. Before selection, obtain complete specifications from the manufacturer to verify compatibility with application electrical and thermal requirements.
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